Episodes
70
Sept. 15, 2026
This One Change Led to Their Biggest Year in 36 Years
There’s a widespread belief that zero-interest payment plans are too expensive to the practice. But the reality is interest-free payment plans cost the practice almost exactly what a cash discount costs. Marie Olesen, CEO, and Janelle Robinson, COO, of La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre return to Practiceland to share their journey from treating payment plans as a last-resort conversation to leading with them. To implement the shift, they started small and tested by leading with payment plans fo...
Guests: Janelle Robinson , Marie Olesen
69
Sept. 1, 2026
You’re Not Annoying, You’re Giving Them a Reason
The promising lead that stopped responding, the consultation that booked and cancelled, the patient who came in once, had a great experience, and then stopped returning your calls. Those people didn't say no — they just haven't had a good enough reason to say yes yet, and fewer than one in ten practices ever reach back out to them. Andrea Watkins and co-host Allison Petriella reframe it for us: a lack of response is not a no. Your patients are juggling kids, jobs, aging parents, and their own p...
Guest: Allison Petriella
68
Aug. 18, 2026
Prevent Bad Reviews Before You Get Them
Most practices chase stars on Google and stop there. But proactively seeking feedback from patients before requesting a review is the earliest warning that a process or a person is quietly letting people down. Practices that survey their patients catch those problems in private, long before they turn into a public shaming or a legal battle. In 1988, after realizing patients choose their surgeon by listening to other patients, Marie Olesen at La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre began surveying ever...
67
Aug. 4, 2026
The summer slowdown isn't random — it's predictable
Every year the schedule goes soft, everyone panics, and then it fills back up — like summer is some kind of surprise. Andrea Watkins and patient care coordinator Alli Petriella break down how to see the slow stretches coming: pulling several years of historical data, tracking surgery-hour utilization and revenue, and reading the lifestyle and regional patterns that decide when your patients actually book. Here’s how to talk about a soft month with your team without spreading panic, how to use yo...
Guest: Allison Petriella
66
July 21, 2026
Read the Room in 60 Seconds: The DISC Hack for Talking to Any Patient
Some people walk in ready to sign before you open your mouth. Others need three weeks, a printout, and a notebook full of questions. Same practice, same price, same words out of you — completely different result. Troy Cole runs LogiCole Consulting and has spent about 20 years coaching refractive and cataract surgery teams to convert more patients and command premium prices. He teaches Andrea DISC, a four-quadrant personality framework simple enough to use live on a phone call, then reads Andrea...
Guests: Andrea Watkins , Troy Cole
65
July 7, 2026
The Cancellation Playbook Every PCC Should Have
A hole opens up on the surgery schedule with zero warning, and it never fails to trigger the same stomach-drop reaction from whoever picks up the phone. Andrea Watkins and Alli Petriella walk through exactly what to do next — the policies you need in place before it happens, and the moves that fill the spot fast without looking desperate. Alli, a Patient Care Coordinator with more than a decade in aesthetic practice sales, joins Andrea live from the office to break down a full system: how to b...
64
June 23, 2026
It’s (Almost) Never About the Money
Every consult eventually hits the moment a patient goes quiet — “let me think about it,” or the call that opens with “just tell me what a tummy tuck costs.” How you handle that pause decides whether the patient moves forward or walks out the door. Pulled from the Practiceland vault, we’re bringing you the sharpest objection-handling moments our guests have ever given us, stitched into a single masterclass. Jenna Hennig, Alli Petriella, and Janelle Robinson break down why hesitation is almost a...
63
June 9, 2026
Money Talks: A Crash Course for Patient Care Coordinators
The hardest part of learning the patient coordinator role in an aesthetic practice isn't memorizing procedures or learning the EMR — it's the first time a patient asks what something costs and you have to answer without flinching. The instinct most of us have on day one is to whisper the number, hide behind the brochure, or drop the price and let silence do the rest. But not being confident in these conversations costs the practice consults, bookings, and doesn’t help the patients who genuinely...
62
June 2, 2026
Building Automation That Sounds Like You (Not a Robot)
Every reminder, confirmation, and follow-up your front desk sends is a chance to build trust — or get unsubscribed. Most teams run the generic, canned versions baked into their EMR, the ones patients tune out. This is about the difference between automation that sounds like a robot and automation that sounds like you. Andrea talks with Becky Godsey, Chief Operating Officer at Denver Plastic Surgery and Aesthetics, who slowly rebuilt her practice’s automated messaging to feel personal, protect t...
Guests: Andrea Watkins , Becky Godsey
61
May 5, 2026
You Could Be Breaking the Law Right Now
There’s a good chance no one has ever told what the corporate practice of medicine doctrine exists, and that’s exactly the problem. It affects everyone in the practice too — not just the person who owns the business. Regulators are actively looking. Boards of medicine, nursing, and pharmacy are running audits across the country, and a spa that quietly started offering Botox or body contouring is exactly who they’re looking for. One Oregon plastic surgeon was out of compliance for years after a ...
60
April 21, 2026
Before You Start Using AI With Patients, Do This First
To use AI in the practice in a way that actually helps your patients, you have to know where to start to prevent it from hurting the brand. Monique Ramsey defined her practice’s "cosmetic surgery bestie" voice, and built Avery—an AI coordinator that answers some common patient questions and books consultations at 2am while everyone's asleep. A year later: 67 hours of coordinator time saved, median response time down from 24 minutes to one, and two-thirds of leads captured after hours. Hear ex...
Guest: Monique Ramsey
59
April 7, 2026
The 1 Simple Strategy That Will Keep Your Patients From Going Across the Street
Most practices obsess over getting new patients in the door, but ignore what actually makes them profitable: getting them to come back over and over. Clark Cave from Model Rewards joins us to share why loyalty programs are much more than perks—they’re a competitive advantage and without a loyalty strategy, you’re leaving serious revenue on the table. From the psychology behind awarding points and the power of “switching costs,” hear the real reasons that retention drives growth. GUESTS Clark ...
Guests: Eva Sheie , Clark Cave
58
March 31, 2026
Discounts Are Destroying Your Reputation. Here’s Why.
Discounts feel like the fastest way to fill the schedule, but the cycle they create quietly destroys your reputation and hurts the business. Tackling one of the most controversial topics in aesthetics, Andrea and Alli argue against making deals to book patients — because the consequences attract the wrong clientele, degrade your value, and turn surgery into a negotiation rather than a life-changing experience. Find out how high-performing practices avoid discounts entirely, why confident prici...
Guests: Allison Petriella , Andrea Watkins
57
March 24, 2026
Non-Competes: What They're Not Telling You Before You Sign
That new employment contract you’re excited to sign could quietly shape your entire future. Non-competes aren’t just legal jargon; they can decide where you’re allowed to work, for how long, and at what cost. Healthcare attorney Evan Sampson explains how non-competes work, why enforcement varies wildly by state, and how employers are getting more creative as laws shift. They cover what’s reasonable, what should raise red flags, and why confidentiality and trade secret clauses can be just as re...
Guest: Evan Sampson
56
March 17, 2026
Yes You CAN Have a 100% Same-Day Close Rate
To believe that you can have a 100% same day close rate, you also have to believe your consultations are won or lost before your prospective patient ever walks into the office. Alli shares every detail of the proven process she follows to achieve a 100% same-day close rate by eliminating every possible surprise and helping the right patients be confident about moving forward. GUEST Alli Petriella Patient Care Coordinator at Steven Camp, MD Plastic Surgery and Aesthetics Alli is a results-driv...
Guests: Allison Petriella , Andrea Watkins
55
March 10, 2026
How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 2)
Money doesn’t have to be the reason patients hesitate, but it often is. Jenna Hennig is back to share how payment planning helps patients move forward without feeling pressured or sold to. She explains how to introduce financing naturally, frame the...
Guests: Heather Hughes Hardy , Jenna Hennig, RN
54
March 3, 2026
How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 1)
Most injectors know the two easiest ways to increase revenue, but something keeps them from actually doing either consistently. Jenna Hennig shares the two simple shifts can double per-appointment revenue: protecting patient results with skincare and securing treatment with smart payment planning. She explains why these aren’t “sales tactics,” but part of ethical, high-quality care. Listen for when skincare conversations should happen, who should lead them, and how team-wide communication imp...
Guests: Heather Hughes Hardy , Jenna Hennig, RN
53
Feb. 24, 2026
Should You Be An Employee Or A 1099 Contractor?
If you were hired as a 1099 contractor but should be an employee, you might be at serious legal risk. What looks like a simple arrangement can quickly turn into a costly audit, penalties, and unexpected liability. Attorney Evan Sampson explains who really qualifies as an independent contractor and how misclassification can backfire for both owners and providers. GUEST Evan Sampson Counsel, Healthcare at Post & Schell Attorneys At Law Evan Sampson is Counsel in Post & Schell’s Health Care Prac...
Guest: Evan Sampson
52
Feb. 17, 2026
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 2)
If consult fees aren’t part of your process or aren’t working, there are other ways to protect the schedule. Heather Hughes Hardy and Jenna Hennig continue the conversation with practical strategies front desk and scheduling teams can actually use. From collecting a card on file to setting clear cancellation policies, find out how strong communication reduces no-shows and filters serious buyers from browsers. Hear real scenarios, language that feels natural on the phone, and a simple nurture a...
Guests: Heather Hughes Hardy , Jenna Hennig, RN
51
Feb. 10, 2026
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 1)
Consult fees shouldn’t be what stops a great lead from booking, but too often, they do. Jenna Hennig unblocks the blockers all front desk teams face: the consultation. Find out why these fees are essential, how they protect the schedule, and why...
Guests: Heather Hughes Hardy , Jenna Hennig, RN
50
Feb. 3, 2026
This One Might Hurt a Little…But Feelings Don't Pay the Bills
Criticism can sting, but it doesn’t have to shake your confidence. Heather Hughes-Hardy opens up about her early struggles with taking feedback personally and how one mentor’s tough-love advice completely shifted her mindset. Her go-to? Radical...
Guests: Heather Hughes Hardy , Blake Lucas
49
Jan. 27, 2026
She Got Laid Off, Then Landed 7 Job Offers in 1 Month…
…and then chose the wrong one. Alli’s with the wild story of losing her job to layoffs, picking herself up off the ground quickly, then crushing her job search so hard she had the unique challenge of choosing between seven offers. Discovering she did not fit in the organization she chose, she then landed a new role that aligned perfectly with what matters most: culture fit and shared commitment to the patient journey. For anyone who has lost their job or is feeling stuck, here’s how to find a...
Guests: Allison Petriella , Andrea Watkins
48
Jan. 20, 2026
Calm Down, Karen: What To Do When Patients Pop Off
Handling upset, aggressive, or emotional patients is an art form. When a patient gets heated—even after you’ve done everything right, what should you do? Jenna shares how she stays calm and reminds patients you’re on the same team to turn tension into trust. By identifying what’s really bothering them (like fear of wasted money or treatment doubt), you can calmly redirect the conversation. Find out when it’s okay to walk away and how to protect yourself when emotions run high. GUEST Jenna Hen...
Guests: Jenna Hennig, RN , Blake Lucas
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Jan. 13, 2026
AI is Fire (Part 2): What NOT To Do
Back for part 2 with special guest Ken Bosan, we flip our conversation to the “don’ts” to help you avoid making costly mistakes or offending patients. Some of the big no-no’s include letting generic AI copy speak for your brand, over-automating patient communication so it feels cold or robotic, and chasing shortcuts that ignore compliance, accuracy, or your own clinical judgment. GUESTS Ken Bosan Chief Strategy Officer at Studio III Marketing Ken Bosan is the Chief Strategy Officer at Studio ...