Conversion Episodes

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Oct. 13, 2026

Why Your Best Consults Might Not Book Today (And It’s Totally OK)

Every patient coordinator gets judged on one number: the conversion rate. But chasing a same-day booking can quietly cost you the trust you just spent an hour building, and it's not the only way to measure whether a consultation actually worked. Amy Anderson, founder and CEO of ACG Practice Partners, joins Andrea Watkins to share the FORD method: a simple way to ask patients about family, occupation, recreation, and dreams so they feel seen instead of processed. Amy has spent her career inside ...
Guest: Amy Anderson
Why Your Best Consults Might Not Book Today (And It’s Totally OK)
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Why Your Best Consults Might Not Book Today (And It’s Totally OK)
71
Sept. 29, 2026

Never Apologize For The Price

Every patient coordinator knows the moment: the consultation goes great, the patient's excited, and then the price is delivered and you feel yourself start to apologize for it. That reflex isn't harmless, it tells the patient the price is something to feel bad about, and it can quietly reverse a decision that was otherwise locked in. Troy Cole returns to Practiceland for round two. He's spent 20 years training refractive and cataract surgery teams, and now shares the same playbook for aesthetic...
Guest: Troy Cole
Never Apologize For The Price
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Never Apologize For The Price
69
Sept. 1, 2026

You’re Not Annoying, You’re Giving Them a Reason

The promising lead that stopped responding, the consultation that booked and cancelled, the patient who came in once, had a great experience, and then stopped returning your calls. Those people didn't say no — they just haven't had a good enough reason to say yes yet, and fewer than one in ten practices ever reach back out to them. Andrea Watkins and co-host Allison Petriella reframe it for us: a lack of response is not a no. Your patients are juggling kids, jobs, aging parents, and their own p...
You’re Not Annoying, You’re Giving Them a Reason
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
You’re Not Annoying, You’re Giving Them a Reason
63
June 9, 2026

Money Talks: A Crash Course for Patient Care Coordinators

The hardest part of learning the patient coordinator role in an aesthetic practice isn't memorizing procedures or learning the EMR — it's the first time a patient asks what something costs and you have to answer without flinching. The instinct most of us have on day one is to whisper the number, hide behind the brochure, or drop the price and let silence do the rest. But not being confident in these conversations costs the practice consults, bookings, and doesn’t help the patients who genuinely...
Money Talks: A Crash Course for Patient Care Coordinators
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Money Talks: A Crash Course for Patient Care Coordinators
58
March 31, 2026

Discounts Are Destroying Your Reputation. Here’s Why.

Discounts feel like the fastest way to fill the schedule, but the cycle they create quietly destroys your reputation and hurts the business. Tackling one of the most controversial topics in aesthetics, Andrea and Alli argue against making deals to book patients — because the consequences attract the wrong clientele, degrade your value, and turn surgery into a negotiation rather than a life-changing experience. Find out how high-performing practices avoid discounts entirely, why confident prici...
Discounts Are Destroying Your Reputation. Here’s Why.
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Discounts Are Destroying Your Reputation. Here’s Why.
56
March 17, 2026

Yes You CAN Have a 100% Same-Day Close Rate

To believe that you can have a 100% same day close rate, you also have to believe your consultations are won or lost before your prospective patient ever walks into the office. Alli shares every detail of the proven process she follows to achieve a 100% same-day close rate by eliminating every possible surprise and helping the right patients be confident about moving forward. GUEST Alli Petriella Patient Care Coordinator at Steven Camp, MD Plastic Surgery and Aesthetics Alli is a results-driv...
Yes You CAN Have a 100% Same-Day Close Rate
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Yes You CAN Have a 100% Same-Day Close Rate
55
March 10, 2026

How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 2)

Money doesn’t have to be the reason patients hesitate, but it often is. Jenna Hennig is back to share how payment planning helps patients move forward without feeling pressured or sold to. She explains how to introduce financing naturally, frame the...
How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 2)
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How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 2)
54
March 3, 2026

How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 1)

Most injectors know the two easiest ways to increase revenue, but something keeps them from actually doing either consistently. Jenna Hennig shares the two simple shifts can double per-appointment revenue: protecting patient results with skincare and securing treatment with smart payment planning. She explains why these aren’t “sales tactics,” but part of ethical, high-quality care. Listen for when skincare conversations should happen, who should lead them, and how team-wide communication imp...
How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 1)
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How to Double Your Per-Appointment Revenue (Part 1)
52
Feb. 17, 2026

Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 2)

If consult fees aren’t part of your process or aren’t working, there are other ways to protect the schedule. Heather Hughes Hardy and Jenna Hennig continue the conversation with practical strategies front desk and scheduling teams can actually use. From collecting a card on file to setting clear cancellation policies, find out how strong communication reduces no-shows and filters serious buyers from browsers. Hear real scenarios, language that feels natural on the phone, and a simple nurture a...
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 2)
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 2)
51
Feb. 10, 2026

Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 1)

Consult fees shouldn’t be what stops a great lead from booking, but too often, they do. Jenna Hennig unblocks the blockers all front desk teams face: the consultation. Find out why these fees are essential, how they protect the schedule, and why...
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 1)
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Charging for Consults Without Losing the Lead (Part 1)
47
Jan. 13, 2026

AI is Fire (Part 2): What NOT To Do

Back for part 2 with special guest Ken Bosan, we flip our conversation to the “don’ts” to help you avoid making costly mistakes or offending patients. Some of the big no-no’s include letting generic AI copy speak for your brand, over-automating patient communication so it feels cold or robotic, and chasing shortcuts that ignore compliance, accuracy, or your own clinical judgment. GUESTS Ken Bosan Chief Strategy Officer at Studio III Marketing Ken Bosan is the Chief Strategy Officer at Studio ...
AI is Fire (Part 2): What NOT To Do
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AI is Fire (Part 2): What NOT To Do
46
Jan. 6, 2026

AI is Fire (Part 1): Getting Started With AI

While AI shakes up the world, inside the practice we’re getting lofty sales pitches and feeling a mix of curiosity and anxiety over being left behind. With special guest Ken Bosan, who leads strategy for hundreds of aesthetic practices at Studio 3 Marketing, we bring you the practical ways we’re each using AI to streamline our everyday work. GUESTS Ken Bosan Chief Strategy Officer at Studio III Marketing Ken Bosan is the Chief Strategy Officer at Studio 3 Marketing, where he helps aesthetic p...
AI is Fire (Part 1): Getting Started With AI
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AI is Fire (Part 1): Getting Started With AI
45
Dec. 30, 2025

Steal our Cheat Sheet for Getting Lots of Patient Reviews

Getting great patient reviews isn’t luck—it’s strategy. Andrea and Eva talk about how to make asking for reviews feel natural, why timing matters, and what really motivates patients to share their stories. Eva shares proven tips from years in the industry, like having the doctor personally ask happy post-op patients and using simple tools—QR codes, texts, and follow-ups—to make it easy. They cover what not to do (no fake reviews or bribes!) and how to handle negative feedback with professionali...
Steal our Cheat Sheet for Getting Lots of Patient Reviews
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
Steal our Cheat Sheet for Getting Lots of Patient Reviews
43
Dec. 16, 2025

The Patient Journey Starts in This Unexpected Place

Picking up the phone to talk about surgery is no small feat. It’s a leap of courage. For patients, that first call often comes after months or even years of self-doubt, research, and “maybe someday.” For providers, it’s a reminder that what feels routine for them is life-changing for someone else. Andrea and Alli share what truly makes a profitable first call. Avoiding slimy tactics, pressure or persuasion, they operate through presence. They share how empathy, education, and emotional awarenes...
The Patient Journey Starts in This Unexpected Place
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The Patient Journey Starts in This Unexpected Place
37
Nov. 4, 2025

Recession-Proof Revenue: Inside a PCC’s 90% Conversion Rate

You know those times when the phones get quiet and everyone starts to worry? This is the episode you’ll want your whole team to hear before that happens. PatientFi’s Blake Lucas sits down with Heather Hughes-Hardy (CORE IT Method), Eva Sheie (The Axis), and Stephanie Deswert (PCC at Berks Plastic Surgery) for a behind-the-scenes conversation on how top practices are staying profitable when patient flow slows. Heather reframes downtime as your biggest growth window, Stephanie shares how she kee...
Recession-Proof Revenue: Inside a PCC’s 90% Conversion Rate
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Recession-Proof Revenue: Inside a PCC’s 90% Conversion Rate
24
Aug. 5, 2025

The Secret to High-Converting Non-Surgical Calls

Scheduling non-surgical appointments isn’t just about filling a spot on the calendar. It’s an opportunity to start a relationship. Every first impression turns into trust. That means asking the right questions to understand what the patient is looking for, making sure they’re a good fit for the treatment, and setting clear expectations about what results they can expect. To guide patients confidently, you need to know the treatments inside and out. But it’s not just about facts—it’s about shar...
The Secret to High-Converting Non-Surgical Calls
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The Secret to High-Converting Non-Surgical Calls
23
July 29, 2025

Your Dumbest Money Questions Answered

Most of us were never taught how financing actually works. We nod along when APR or compound interest comes up, hoping no one asks follow-up questions. Blake answers all the “dumb” questions we’re secretly asking, from how traditional medical credit cards come with hidden fees and high interest, frustrating both patients and providers. PatientFi was built to offer a friendlier, more transparent way to pay, helping patients say yes to the care they want. Monthly payments can shift everything. W...
Your Dumbest Money Questions Answered
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Your Dumbest Money Questions Answered
18
June 24, 2025

The Secret Language of Patient Trust

Active listening is more than nodding along. It’s about tuning into the words, tone, and emotions behind what patients are saying (and not saying). When you pick up on those cues and mirror their language, trust starts to form, and that’s when the real connection happens. Heather Hughes Hardy and Jenna Hennig share how to hear what patients are really telling you, even if they’re not saying it directly. Learn how to create a safe space for honest conversations, why your note-taking matters mor...
The Secret Language of Patient Trust
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The Secret Language of Patient Trust
9
April 22, 2025

This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 2]

We’re back with part two of our deep dive into conversion. Did you miss Part 1? Go back one episode and start there! Not just one but TWO conversion-obsessed data junkies share their best lead-generating and consultation-closing tactics, including the easy campaign that generated over 400 leads and 35 consultation requests with a single email. In this deep-dive episode packed with actionable tactics, Andrea Watkins and Eva Sheie uncomplicate what conversion really is and what a “good” conversi...
This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 2]
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 2]
8
April 15, 2025

This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 1]

Not just one but TWO conversion-obsessed data junkies share their best lead-generating and consultation-closing tactics, including the easy campaign that generated over 400 leads and 35 consultation requests with a single email. In this deep-dive episode packed with actionable tactics, Andrea Watkins and Eva Sheie uncomplicate what conversion really is and what a “good” conversion rate looks like. Hear the dumbest conversion-killers we’ve seen, so you can be a hero and fix these common mistake...
This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 1]
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
This Episode is Worth Millions of Dollars [Part 1]
1
Feb. 25, 2025

From Awkward to Cha-Ching: The Ultimate Guide to Talking About Money in Aesthetic Practices

Talking about money is awkward, right? It’s taboo, it’s uncomfortable, and everyone has unspoken baggage around it. But success in aesthetics requires confidently discussing costs with patients, and being great at it helps you advance your own career. To help you get over it fast, we’ve invited Janelle Robinson, COO of La Jolla Cosmetic Surgery Centre, to confront the when, where, and how of talking about money. Find out how Janelle and her team navigate pricing conversations, build trust, and ...
From Awkward to Cha-Ching: The Ultimate Guide to Talking About Money in Aesthetic Practices
Practiceland: Not Your Doctor's Podcast
From Awkward to Cha-Ching: The Ultimate Guide to Talking About Money in Aesthetic Practices